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subverbal: (not in Eng. dictionary)

EBT compliant definition of 'subverbal':
mental co-activities (citta Saṅ-khārā) that underlie thoughts you think V&V💭 before you say them out loud (vāca).
The most frequent subverbal activity terms used by the Buddha,
is perceptions (sañña) and attention (manasi karoti) to perceptions.
✅samādhi nimittas, Dhamma, sati and Dhamma-vicaya span the whole range from verbal to vitakka and subverbal activity.
Example: After V&V💭 ceases in first jhana, S&S🐘💭 continues as subverbal mental processing from 2nd jhāna on up.
Even in Abhidhamma, 31asb🧟‍ and Vimt. use verbal recitation of body parts as the entry into that meditation,
and mental recitation V&V💭 continues into first jhāna,
then becomes S&S🐘💭 (subverbal) in 2nd jhana on up.
AN 9.41: See the perceptions and attention that underlie vitakka (thinking) referenced in 2nd and first jhana.
MN 18, AN 4.41: hierarchy of viññana, vedana, sañña, vitakka.
MN 20 this is a 2nd and first jhāna context - vitakka Saṅ-khārā underlie and precede vitakka (directed thoughts)
AN 3.60 meditator with mind reading superpower can "hear" mental talk V&V💭 of first jhāna meditators,
and can directly perceive the mind of the subverbal mano-saṅkhārā of meditators in 2nd jhana and above.

⛔ vitakka in first jhāna does not mean "placing the mind" or "initial application", as late Abhidhamma and other heretics attempt to redefine it.
Vitakka whether in first jhāna or not always means directed thoughts that are verbal in nature,
communicable, linguistic words of a language,
thoughts you think before you say them out loud.
Heretics in LBT redefined jhāna, and claim that vitakka is not only subverbal, but is a frozen state where mental processing is not possible.
They claim the Buddha did not have existing words to describe subverbal activity.
As you can see from above, there's already a rich selection of existing terms to describe subverbal activity happening in jhāna and samādhi context: mano-saṅkhārā, vitakka-saṅkhārā, cetana, manasi karoti applied to sañña (aka citta-saṅkhārā), sampajāno.

  subverbal 1 – Subverbal
    subverbal 1.2 – not in English dictionary
    subverbal 1.3 – EBT definitions
    subverbal 1.5 – examples of subverbal usage in EBT
        subverbal 1.5.1 - 31 body parts
        subverbal 1.5.2 – someone really angry
subverbal 2 – Definition of ‘Verbal’
    subverbal 2.1 – cambridge dictionary
    subverbal 2.2 – Merriam webster dictionary

1 – Subverbal

1.2 – not in English dictionary

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The word verbal means “relating to words.” The prefix sub- means “below” or “under” or something similar. So subverbal means “below the level of words.” Exactly what that implies would depend very much on the context, since subverbal is not a word you will find in the dictionary.

1.3 – EBT definitions

See V&V💭 first jhana section synopsis, for comprehensive analysis and how subverbal fits in the context of the oral tradition, relationship to speech and thoughts (of mental talk).


1.5 – examples of subverbal usage in EBT



1.5.1 - 31 body parts

difference between "vicāra" and "sampajāno," (first and second jhāna differences):
vicara is verbal, communicable linguistic mental talk, just like vitakka.
sampajāno is subverbal mental processing.
We use both of those all the time, in jhāna, or any time not in jhāna.
vitakka is more superficial thinking, for example reciting mentally 31 body part names.
vicāra is more detailed exploration of that vitakka thought.
For example, thinking about how "blood flows through the organs and interacts with 4 elements and breath", with verbal thought.

If you're just observing "blood flowing through the body " without verbal thought, then that's sampajāno, lucid discerning using subverbal mental processing.


1.5.2 – ex 2: someone really angry

another example, something everyone has experience with.
you see someone who gets provoked, and is super mad, so mad his face is turning red and his eyes are bulging out.
He hasn't said anything or physically assaulted anyone yet, for the first few seconds,
but you know he's angry and you know some kind of verbal or physical action is coming,
so you start backing off walking away already instantateously.

sampajāno (which can be subverbal) is both he and you knowing he's mad,
with lucid discerning using subverbal mental processing,
before any mental verbal thoughts such as "I'm going to punch him" (vitakka and vicara) form.














2 – Definition of ‘Verbal’


2.1 – cambridge dictionary

1. spoken rather than written:
2. a verbal agreement/description/explanation
example: Airport officials received a stream of verbal abuse from angry passengers whose flights had been delayed.
More examples
Do you have it down in writing, or was it just a verbal agreement?
He had apparently experienced a lot of verbal abuse from his co-workers.
He launched into a verbal attack on her handling of the finances.
Sales assistants are often at the receiving end of verbal abuse from customers.
Many strikebreakers were subjected to verbal and physical attacks.

2.2 – Merriam webster dictionary

(Entry 1 of 2)
1a : of, relating to, or consisting of words verbal instructions
b : of, relating to, or involving words rather than meaning or substance a consistency that is merely verbal and scholastic— B. N. Cardozo
c : consisting of or using words only and not involving action verbal abuse
2 : of, relating to, or formed from a verb a verbal adjective
3 : spoken rather than written a verbal contract
4 : verbatim, word-for-word a verbal translation
5 : of or relating to facility in the use and comprehension of words verbal aptitude

verbal noun

Definition of verbal (Entry 2 of 2)
: a word that combines characteristics of a verb with those of a noun or adjective — compare gerund, infinitive, participle


2.3 – vitakka = verbal thought

vitakka is linguistic, verbal, mental talk, a communicable language.
vitakka are words you say to yourself in your mind before you speak and vocalize it with sound by talking.
That’s why vitakka are vacī-sankhāra, co-activities that are essential to vocalizing and speaking words out loud.


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